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Yessar Rosendar

Indonesian Ministry to Ban IT Business Links With Israeli Firms

The Ministry for Communications and Information Technology said on Tuesday it was planning to investigate telecommunications companies involved in business deals with Israel, a day after the minister said a company would be dropped from a tender because it had an Israeli shareholder.

“We will investigate the involvement of Israel-affiliated companies in the telecommunications industry, and we will sanction [local companies] if we find there are violations of regulations,” Gatot S Dewa Broto, a ministry spokesman, told the Jakarta Globe.

On Monday, Communications and Information Technology Minister Tifatul Sembiring said US-based company Amdocs would be excluded from bidding to supply a billing service to PT Telkom Selular Indonesia because it had an Israeli shareholder.

Tifatul, a member of the conservative Islamic Prosperous Justice Party (PKS), said excluding Amdocs was justified because Israel did not have diplomatic relations with Indonesia — something he claimed was required by a ministerial regulation on telecommunications.

Amdocs is headquartered in Chesterfield, Missouri and has branches around the world. It has an office in Tel Aviv, but the Jakarta Globe could not confirm whether it had Israeli shareholders.

Asked about Tifatul’s statement, Gatot said there was nothing in the telecommunications regulations that specifically prohibited a partnership with a business from a country that did not have formal relations with Indonesia. However, he said Tifatul was probably referring to a 1999 regulation on telecommunications that stated that the public interest must be protected.

“It is not directly stated in the regulation, but we interpret this to mean that the banning comes from an effort to protect the people’s interests,” Gatot said.

“It’s not because the minister is from the PKS,” he added.

Meanwhile, Maswidyantoro, an analyst from consumer organization Masyarakat Telematika Indonesia (Mastel), called Tifatul’s use of ministerial regulations “irrelevant” and unwise.

According to Maswidyantoro, Israeli technology was commonly used in the information-technology sector because the country was a major producer of high-tech components.

Currently, 90 percent of the telecommunication parts used in the country were imported, he said. Many of these could be from Israeli manufacturers or come from companies with Israeli shareholders, he said.

“How about products from Taiwan? Many of our telecommunications products are from Taiwan — another country that does not have diplomatic relations with Indonesia,” Maswidyantoro said.

Eddie Kurnia, a spokesman from PT Telkomunikasi Indonesia, the parent company of Telkom Selular, a provider of cellphone services, said the company was still investigating the issue.

However, Telkom would support the government regulations, he said.



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Valkyrie

10:24 AM February 6, 2010

Let's not be naive guys! Most large corporations in the USA have got Amercian Jews within their midst Does it make any difference if Indonesia has dealings with these groups?

Let's face it, it's taking place but we're not aware of it. Mr. "Goatie" just needs some attention and he knows the way to get it.

For the time being, he's treading on delicate grounds. If he does not get his "balancing" together, for certain curtains down for him.

JohnnyCool

6:45 PM February 5, 2010

"Indonesia" hasn't found the plot yet. Let alone had time enough to "lose it", yet. Certainly seems that the "Indonesian Ministry" is working on it.

Much of the world's technology comes from America in the first place. Check your computer's operating system, for example. Chances are it's either Microsoft Windows or Apple.

Those who want to rant and rave about this "issue" and post opinions on websites like this, should turn everything off and wait until Indonesian techies come up with a viable alternative. Good luck!

A list of the world's most evil governments is a very long one. It would include the USA, China, Myanmar, North Korea, Israel, Iran, Pakistan, India, Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc. Even Indonesia is not exactly squeaky-clean.

Most nations on the planet have dealings with each other, one way or another, whether they like it or not. That includes "Jews", "Americans", "Muslims", "Arabs", whatever.

"Indonesia" shouldn't get its knickers in a knot about sweet FA.

davegs

5:33 PM February 5, 2010

I really think that payday loans would be a great way to help boost the economy.

Roland

11:26 AM December 18, 2009

Dear "PaceForAll" (or should your name be ...except Criminal Militant Israelis, Western Fascists/Infidels...and whoever else you are opposed to!).

I am sure nobody will want to dare to discuss your weird opinions (to call them "challenging" might be a bit too far-fetched) it will be up to you and like minded as you to lead the path for this amazing democracy Indonesia (a shining star and idol to any other democracy) without Western Fascist "Know How" support to create and distribute advanced and mind boggling IT devices which will conquer the world. A great start is already set as Indonesians hackers and their attempts to fraud are so well known over the world that it even prohibits many times to buy over the internet something here in Indonesia. Oh, I forgot that is just a conspiracy of the evil West and those dirty worms from the Middle East (that just as an idea on how to respond in case you want to).

Viva Indonesia and all the people from your intellectual corner, I am confident that with people like you wandering the oldest and greatest civilization of all, peace for all is just around the corner and technological advancements and productions in Indonesia are just a blink of an eye away. As a start, everyone's got their mobile phones already...

peterR

11:16 AM December 18, 2009

PeaceForAll

Can one assume that you don't care much for the West then?

Kiai Carita

10:42 AM December 18, 2009

Looking at Mr Tiff's wispy beard I, as a Muslim, doubt that he is emulating the Prophet Muhammad SAW who reportedly had a full, manly beard. Mr Tiff's beard resembles a goat's more than any Prophet's, and a goat like beard is how we often see Satan, never Prophets, depicted in pictures. Noting his racism against Jews I am now sure that he is not emulating Muhammad SAW at all, for the Seal of the Prophets had no problem with doing business with Jews. In fact, most of the Prophets in Islam are Jews. Therefore I suggest that this useless Tiff gets kicked out of the cabinet and the PKS before he causes more embarrassement to all of us. He is a waste of space.

PeaceForAll

12:25 AM December 18, 2009

When Britain says they don't want to use Huawei Technology because of fair that Chinese Intelligence could use their Huawei software to spy on Britain, it is OK. But when Indonesia wants to do the same whatever the reason it gives, it is not Ok.

You Fascist West wake up, the World is changing, it is becoming Chinese because nobody wants to deal with Western Fascists because of their hypocrisy. Viva Indonesia, Viva China, Viva Peace for All, Free Palestine.

Indonesia is great Nation, it has older civilisation than Fascist West. Indonesia must produce its own IT technologies. Not all people in the world want to use Israeli IT technology because all Israeli IT companies are with criminal military roots, they help in killing Palestinians, all Israeli society is military society, all Jews have guns in their houses.

miphz

3:50 PM December 17, 2009

For those who talk about conservatism but didn't know what conservative is, should study about what Russel Kirk says:

http://logicallyconservative.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/ten-conservative-principles/

First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent.

Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity. It is old custom that enables people to live together peaceably; the destroyers of custom demolish more than they know or desire.

Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription. Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants, able to see farther than their ancestors only because of the great stature of those who have preceded us in time.

Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence. Burke agrees with Plato that in the statesman, prudence is chief among virtues.

Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety. They feel affection for the proliferating intricacy of long-established social institutions and modes of life, as distinguished from the narrowing uniformity and deadening egalitarianism of radical systems.

Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability. Human nature suffers irremediably from certain grave faults, the conservatives know. Man being imperfect, no perfect social order ever can be created.

Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked. Separate property from private possession, and Leviathan becomes master of all.

Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism. Although Americans have been attached strongly to privacy and private rights, they also have been a people conspicuous for a successful spirit of community.

Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions. Politically speaking, power is the ability to do as one likes, regardless of the wills of one’s fellows.

Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society. The conservative is not opposed to social improvement, although he doubts whether there is any such force as a mystical Progress, with a Roman P, at work in the world.

Simon P

10:16 AM December 17, 2009

Exactly. This country has and has had plenty of 'Palestinians' of its own.

peterR

11:56 PM December 16, 2009

Just watched Balibo, so I had better refrain from saying what immediately comes into my mind regarding Indonesia's stance here on Israel.

jetset24

11:22 PM December 16, 2009

I have only one thing to say: Believing in GOD is about LOVE and there is such a thing as KARMA and it will bite back. But would any conservative Islamic PKS members influenced in politics really understand business values despite cultural, religion and sexual orientation differences worldwide and in Indonesia for that matter?? I seriously doubt it if any religious conservatism in the world hinders global economic advancement...

Roland

9:48 PM December 16, 2009

Rocketer - poor chap - what makes you hate a foreign country so much!

I shall remain with a quote of Martin Luther King Jr. for you: “Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.”

depkeu_man

7:53 PM December 16, 2009

Guys, my name is Muhammad, but it doesn't mean I have to ban myself doing business with Israeli? Probably next time we will be prohibited to watch Hollywood movies?

rocketer

6:51 PM December 16, 2009

i'm sure this is only coincident . . . Mr Tiff and . . . . Israel ( man I really Hate that country too)

Valkyrie

4:50 PM December 16, 2009

I do believe the "boss" has given a few of his appointees quite enough rope to hang themselves.

I can imagine Mr Tif.........tiffing off on his what to do list for the first 100 days. Jeez! nothing works! Thinking about it more seriously, I cannot believe he expected this appointment, but ego got the better of him. That's politics for you and thus beggars cannot be choosers.

Tony The Tiger

2:02 PM December 16, 2009

Oh wow! Seriously, Mr. SBY. THIS is the man you chose for the position? Because when people think of Information Technology the first thing that would pop into their mind is PKS.

In other news, Mr Sembiring has just proposed a ban on 99% of Hollywood movies from being transmitted through PT Telkom's infrastructure on the account of being "bankrolled by jews".

And for those of you sending gifts to Mr Sembiring any time soon, please note that Schindler's List will NOT make a good gift.

Valkyrie

11:48 AM December 16, 2009

philry4n - try asking Mr Tif if he has ever heard of Rasmus Lerdorf. He'll probably tell you...Rasmus.... never heard of!

Valkyrie

6:22 AM December 16, 2009

Those in PT Telkoms who won't toe the line, be careful! You'll probably be out of a job before you can even realize it.

Don't even be surprised if within the near future we'll see people on the streets carrying placards and protesting!

That's the way to gain de merit points Mr. Tif!

philry4n

4:59 AM December 16, 2009

But but php is israeli too!

Nathan.W

4:00 AM December 16, 2009

Want to protect people’s interest? Focus on job creation and foreign companies willing to recruit and train locals, and share technologies. PKS prejudicial mindset does not serve the public interest.