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Ronna Nirmala

Aceh Stoning Law ‘Acceptable and Fair’, Say Legal Experts

Although the passage of a local bylaw in staunchly Muslim Aceh that requires adulterers to be stoned to death has shocked many here and abroad, some experts on Wednesday said such a law was legally acceptable.

Rudi Satrio, a criminal law expert from the state University of Indonesia, viewed the punishment, regarded by many as barbaric, as being part of the diversity in legal sanctions and one that was particularly linked to Muslims.

The Qanun on Jinayat , or Local Bylaw on Crime, passed by the Aceh legislative on Monday, was acceptable and fair because the state recognizes Aceh’s special status, reflected in its authority to include Islamic teachings in its everyday life and regulations, Rudi said.

“We must remember that Aceh is a ‘special’ region that has its own autonomy,” he said.

“This is a reflection of the heterogenity of Indonesian society, which has different religions. Each religion has its own rules and religious outlook and their implementation are different for each of them,” he said.

Rudi said that the qanun containing the stoning provision must not only be seen as a reflection of the partial legal autonomy for the special region, but must also be viewed as part of the application of a religion.

Stoning has been part of the Islamic shariah that dates back to the times of Prophet Muhammad but the implementation of such a bylaw has to first meet stringent criteria, said Asmawi MA, who heads the Islamic Criminal Law and State Administration of Islamic Studies of the Syarif Hidayatullah State Islamic University.

“A law may apply if it is relevant in three aspects: sociologically, which means it is the demand of the people of Aceh; juridically, which means that Aceh as a special region has the legitimacy to make such a law; and philosophically, which means that it has roots in other laws, in this case Islamic criminal law.”

The law in Aceh that condones punishment by stoning, has met all three points, he said, adding that therefore it was valid and applicable in that region only.

However, the public in general needed to understand the criteria that had to be met before such punishment can be meted out, Asmawi said.

“In Islam stoning has to follow a process, that is, in determining whether the punishment is justified, two processes that have to be undertaken. The first is determining the perpetrator and the second is that the charge should be substantiated by four eyewitnesses,” he said.

Mahfud MD, head of the Constitutional Court, said the qanun could still be subject to a judicial review by his institution if a demand were made.

“The Constitutional Court clearly would not regard customary or religious law in an identical manner to national laws, although constitutionally, they are all laws,” Mahfud said.

Mahfud also said that the Court needed to “learn more about what the basic foundation of that law was, before we could reach a verdict.”

But he warned that once a verdict was reached, it would be final. “Whatever the decision of the judges, it would have to be respected,” he said.

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court also said that the public, both from Aceh or outside of Aceh could file a judicial review of the stoning law, its spokesman, Andri Tristianto, said.

“A judicial review can be sought if the public and legal analysts believe [the law] is against the Constitution,” he said.

“Those who are sentenced according to that particular law can apply for a judicial review to the Supreme Court.”



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Valkyrie

5:52 PM November 3, 2009

Simon, I will support you until even until a million cows do come home, onlt when Indonesia has a majority of moderates speaking up. Short of it......yours, others and my efforts will be simply like an egg at the end of the bull's horn.

Don't you even be tempted to think that I would skirt the perimeter and I'm certain you "know" me quite well enough by now. No fatalist am I!

As the yanks love to say.....there's so many ways to skin a cat, no?

Simon P

3:12 PM November 3, 2009

Of course we can argue against doctrines, this is a battle for man's very soul Mr. V. It's a fight against mental and physical slavery and for the achievements of freedom enshrined in enlightenment principles. We can argue, and we must.

Valkyrie

2:33 PM November 3, 2009

Agreed Simon, if a nation has established the Rule of Law then this will prevail. However, in Indonesia, there's also Religious Laws in existence to be considered. This apparently is the stumbling block at least for the moderates, who I know will not subscribe to what's developing in Aceh.

You and I, and for sure many others, view this as uncivilized, but can we argue against doctrines?

Simon P

11:23 AM November 3, 2009

two points:

1. There is no prescription for stoning people to death in the Quran for adultery, the text only mentions lashing. Stoning is a Wahabist template overlaid on scripture in Middle Eastern societies.

2. As a signatory to the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Indonesia cannot claim that such a law is 'Acceptable and fair'.

gsignori

10:08 AM November 3, 2009

Islam must be reflected as part of ideological brick that construct indonesia's building of principles established on diversity. Not like this, copy cat-ing an obsolete law.

Valkyrie

8:09 AM November 3, 2009

Your thoughts are predicated upon individual belief, thus....making you an atheist or an agnostic. Trust me, you have my greatest deference towards your ideologies.

The religious doctrine as enumerated in the Holy Quran is NOT subject to compromise. For Muslims who adhere to the precepts, acknowledges the will of God spoken through His prophet. I personally cannot find anything detrimental. It is their pure belief and should be respected.

However, we MUST all note the period, the scriptures were recorded. It is thus obvious that it was in relation to the time. We are now in the 21st century and the BIG question is CAN RELIGION ACCEPT MODERATIION?

The Roman Catholic Church has acquiesced to revise most of their rituals to other languages other than Latin, which was sacred and significantly revered. Why did they change? Yes, because most of their faithfuls DO NOT understand Latin. In Bali, for instance, you will hear the chants being said in a foreign language which most do not understand. I wonder if the priests themselves understand what they're really chanting. Similarly, we have many here who would recite scriptural texts from the Holy Quran in the Arabic form. How many Muslims actually understand Arabic? This phenomena is associated with many Religions around the world.

All I want to convey to you is make an effort to understand religious concepts before any conclusions are made. You see... your cup of tea may not be theirs.

riniunyil

8:52 PM November 2, 2009

I agree with Liam. This type of practice, no matter what religion it is based on, is unethical and should not be condoned. This law mocks every effort the human rights activists have taken to fight against the close-mindedness of religions. It is simply disgusting!

peterR

7:14 PM November 2, 2009

I would love to make some sort of comment that made sense, but my brain simply cannot comprehend a scenario where people allow themselves to be dictated to by priests from any religion. I believe in Law, I believe in Order, beyond that I believe that every human being has the right to lead their life as they wish, as long as they do no harm to another. I also believe that this is it, and when it is over we are all reduced to a pile of atomic dust. To spend this life suffering so that the next will be glorious, in my mind, is just bollocks. To the Acehnese who are happy to be dictated to by a bunch of guys who probably don’t live up to the standards that they impose on others, be happy.

Valkyrie

5:25 PM November 2, 2009

Good for you Rudi, but still it's a Shariah Law isn't it?

If so, why for some and not for ALL? After all, there are many more Muslims outside of Aceh, sharing and practicing the same faith and beliefs.

Religious doctrines cannot be compromised, especialy within the precepts of the Islamic Faith! There's no exceptions to the Rule.

It's certainly a strawman's argument Rudi!

tamtomo

2:25 PM September 17, 2009

I have already mentioned that when politics is mixed with religion the situation becomes deleterious and detrimental.

However, I am feeling reassured that this Bill will eventually be cut down to size. Rarely does the Presdent involve himself on parliamentary matters and has paid special attention on this issue.

There are only a handful of supporters for this Bill to pass through parliament and those are politicians and ideologists who I would not hesitate to throw into a cesspool.

Liam

11:19 AM September 17, 2009

Ridiculous, barbaric and antiquated. Passage of this law is a huge step backwards for Indonesia and it is threat to the unity of the nation.

The koran and the bible seem to endorse all types of things that would never be accepted today including slavery and human sacrifice. Where will this end?